Kevin Marks @KevinMarks@xoxo.zone

@dogtrax

in Portland for #xoxofest? interested in #indieweb or #mastodon? come to the breakfast meetup tomorrow http://known.kevinmarks.com/2019/indieweb-and-xoxo-mastodon-meetup

@hugh @misty I have bookmarklets to go both ways http://known.kevinmarks.com/2017/day-7-to-amp-or-not-to-amp-100daysofindieweb

@adders I use chromecast for playback and only the phone assistant (which can be squeeze to talk rather than always listening). At least Google key you set what they recorded and delete it. Amazon doesn't do that.

@Gargron *spec, not survey

@Gargron yes - it's part of the survey, and we built it in the social graph api. It helps when a site only has one link (eg github, Twitter)

@Gargron hi there. Does this men we now need the transitive rel=me to confirm that it's you?

Nicely done, fluffy http://beesbuzz.biz/3922

@bram you can do this with ObjectiveC, but people don't

@cubicgarden it's an ongoing challenge. As soon as a standards body is seen as legislative rather than empirical, it starts to decay as would-be legislators show up and argue endlessly.

@cubicgarden https://web.archive.org/web/20140107020734/http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-February/009517.html

http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-February/009517.html

@cubicgarden “I decided that for the sake of our future generations we should document exactly how to process today’s documents, so that when they look back, they can still reimplement HTML browsers and get our data back”
Ian Hickson, 2007

@cubicgarden yes, the xhtml2 focus was a trigger for whatwg - they brought together the web app builders with the browser builders.
It's the legislation vs documentation split. W3C was full of people thinking that writing specs would make everyone implement them.
WhatWG documented how things worked in detail, and looked at how to improve them compatibly

@cubicgarden most of the things that you are praising predate the w3c.
What whatwg did was focus on compatibility and consistency first rather than architecture astronomy.

@yoz they don't even have panto. No wonder their idea of camp was so off